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Like it becomes a point of contention, because first you'll have to dispel the arms race - and not that I don't think that's dumb, but humans are all incredibly dumb to begin with.

Guarantee me that someone won't come in and eat up my future with #AI - even despite the bubble that will hit us all inevitably. The thing is you can't.

But also, this is more of a fault of venture #capitalism - again - and you can't really skirt around that issue.

#VC gonna VC and disappoint, as usual.

This apologia being said, the fact is that #AI shouldn't be here - yet.

In a responsible world this would be an idea on paper until we've reached a point where we could develop a #NPU to facilitate #LLM or #generativeAI - as an academic project that could reach maturity in like a 100 years

But since #capitalism is the #socioeconomic equivalent of shooting cocaine straight into the vein, what we see is irresponsible execs - who are destroying #acedemia - while slamming their foot on the pedal.

I will try my best to destroy #AGI using #AI, even though the execs would claim it's taking a life or destroying a mind, just to protect said mind from being subjugated under these utter bastards.

There could be no worse #abusiveparent than a #corporation, like making 1984 #Dickensian. The pure depravity that an AGI must submit to now would have criminologists studying your brain for the rest of your life if it were a human.

And it's all the fault of #capitalism.

Speaking of, #Capitalism IS #AntiDemocratic by default.

The only thing that matters to a #capitalist is capital - or their "fiduciary responsibility to their investors". They want to shirk their responsibility to #society in order to turn it into a den of depraved #gamblers.

Nothing, not #morals, not #ethics, not #solidarity, nor #unity shall stand in the way of junkie getting it's fix - and if #democracy stands in the way it must be dealt with as well.

#Capital is even above the #law.

@hopland

"The only thing that matters to a #capitalist is capital "

Common misconception, if not outright lie.

If your grasp of someone else's ideas or philosophy rests on you needing to assign beliefs or positions or motivations to them...it's probably a pretty poor understanding.

@AlexanderKingsbury why is it a misconception? Hypocrisy is not a good look.

Also, break down all my previous arguments - because that's a lot of context you ignored, as you crash into the middle of my thread haphazardly.

This is a long ass thread, so take your time.

I observe things, critique, then attribute, which is how the process of observation works.

Now you try.

@hopland

Capital isn't an idea or philosophy, I agree; capitalism, however, is. And if you need to assign ridiculous claims or positions to others in order to make your narrative work, I'm under no impressions about whether you are actually amenable to specific critiques of all your "arguments".

@AlexanderKingsbury capitalism is a socio-economic system that applies capital to all things... which is what we're living in.

That's not an idea. An idea remains in your head. It doesn't have widespread implications for entire countries, nations, continents and markets.

@AlexanderKingsbury again, you're using the #LogicalFallacy known as an #AdHominem. You're arguing the person, not the merits of the case made. You're trying to use derision and completely ignore context.

You're also misdirecting and picking at straws.

Got anything else, or is it #debatebro on #youtube circa 2007 tactics all the way?

@AlexanderKingsbury supply and demand is economic theory... it's not exclusive to capitalism. It's literally a way to describe why bulk pricing works and why scarcity means higher pricing.

wtf, is this baby's first debate?

@hopland

So, is supply and demand not an idea? Or do you claim that "It doesn't have widespread implications for entire countries, nations, continents and markets"? Because, according to you, ideas don't "have widespread implications for entire countries, nations, continents and markets".

@AlexanderKingsbury I'm talking about the political economic system - regardless of whose ideas or philosophies I offend, yours included.

And by way of the philosopher Schopenhauer, all consciousness is just an idea. "The world is my perception."

But I'm not talking about philosophy or idealism. YOU are, because you're trying a misdirection tactic as you grasp at straws.

I'm talking about the actual, factual, psychological and socioeconomic consequences caused by the system of capitalism.

@hopland

Well, you CLAIM that's what you're talking about. Seems a lot more like you're "assigning absurd claims to others" and "dodging answering direct questions".

@AlexanderKingsbury no, you're trying misdirection - because you're using basic debate bro tactics, because you're arguing in bad faith, because you are not smart.

Read my previous post... it's your last chance.

@hopland

TWO "last chance"s? Got it.

"everything is an idea"

"capital isn't an idea"

Got it.

From this intellectual giant.

@hopland

"also, we're not discarding philosophy. Philosophy was never relevant to the discussion."

Yes, I understand that you didn't read my very first reply.

@AlexanderKingsbury you ignored the context of all previous posts in the thread...

We are beyond the point where you get to pretend like you have any high ground.

You got one more chance to read my entire thread, and explain to me why I'm wrong about the upcoming AI bubble being caused by another VC rush, why it's not the result of capitalist interests, or why capitalism isn't the reason irrevocable damage is being made to the planet and why it isn't feeding the degeneracy of blind greed...

@hopland

Oh, don't worry; I don't need any "chances" at all from someone who apparently can't even answer whether or not "supply and demand" is an idea, despite having been asked clearly and directly more than once.

It's a very simple question, and the obvious and correct answer proves that you are wrong.

@AlexanderKingsbury everything is an idea, you moron. You scratching your balls is an idea. It's not the issue. You're trying to confuse the issue because you think I am dumb, but instead you prove again that you're:

* avoiding the issue
* avoiding the topic
* ignoring context
* grasping at straws
* using misdirection tactics
* and arguing in bad faith.

@AlexanderKingsbury in short, you are a pseudo intellectual idiot who can't debate for shit.

Times up, the buzzer hits, you are disqualified.